At least 60,000 people have been killed during the 22-month-long conflict in Syria, the UN said today.
That's far higher than the 45,000 figure used by rebels looking to oust President Bashar al-Assad.
The UN asked independent experts to tot up the figures and came up with a grim tally of 59,648 dead between March 15 2011 and November 30 2012.
But that figure only includes people whose first and last names and place of death are known, so the real number is likely to be higher.
UN high commissioner for human rights Navi Pillay said that fighting has not let up so "we can assume that more than 60,000 people have been killed by the beginning of 2013."
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